No. |
Page |
Original book |
No. of Note |
Japan Notes |
My comments for notes |
7 |
p.110 |
7.5.2
Two examples are shown. The one is concrete slab and the other
is welding. |
26 |
It is general understanding that welding is not
an adequate example for validation of processes for production
and service provision. The new version abandons the concept
of gspecial processh. |
NOTE3 of 3.4.1 process in ISO9000:2000 says that
a process where the conformity of the resulting product cannot
be readily or economically verified is frequently referred to
as a gspecial processh. The word is not abandoned (refer to
gThe meaning of esubsequentf
in the definition of special process: Oct.5w, 2002h in individual
clauses relating ISO9001:2000 corner of this web-site).
ISO/TS16949 requires 7.5.2 have to apply to all processes. It
is very clear requirements and adequate for process approach. |
8 |
p.111
112 |
7.5.3
Identification and traceability |
27 |
The original book confuses with identification
with traceability. |
I do not find the confusion in the original book.
The only fact is the both identifications are often overlapped.
|
9 |
p.120 |
7.5.3
Some of the above identification techniques (for traceability)
may be also used for identification (for product). |
29 |
The sentence should be changed as gsome of the
identification techniques (for product) may be also used for
identification (for traceability). |
The same sentence in 1994 version. The original
sentence shows the authors have the clear and correct concept
for the both identification. Generally techniques of traceability
identification are more complex than product identification.
Therefore the original sentence is rational. |
10 |
p.123 |
7.5.5
The major change is that these requirements are now expected
to be in place not just within your organization, but through
to the final delivery at the intended destination. This requirement
was previously one which had to be specified in a contract before
it was applicable. |
33 |
There is no change of requirement. |
It is true that the sentence of gwhere contractually
specifiedh is deleted in 2000 version.
By the deletion some company may have to change their management
system according to the revision.Historically, the Japanese
translators had explained the meaning of gpreservationh of 4.15.5
clause in ISO9001: 1994 as segregating finished products which
waiting for delivery from other products.
But ISO9000-2 explains totally differently with example such
as maintenance of dust and static free conditions for semiconductors.Like
this the false understanding had already started in 1994 version. |
11 |
p.120 |
7.6
Small businesses are usually faced with the choice of carrying
out the calibration themselves or having someone else do it
for them. |
36 |
Choice of carrying out the calibration themselves
or having someone else do it for them is depend on whether they
have competence for it, not the size of a company. |
The sentence is totally same as in 19964 version.Actually
a big company can afford to get calibration competence for themselves,
but a small company is not easy to get such competence.
It depends on the size of a company as the original book says.
|
12 |
p.123 |
8.1The monitoring and measuring activities to
which these will be applied are
Ecustomer satisfaction
Equality management performance
Eprocess performance
Eproduct and service performance |
37 |
Monitoring and measurement of quality management
includes monitoring and measurement of customer satisfaction,
quality management performance, process performance and product
and service performance.
The four kinds of monitoring and measurement are not parallel. |
The false note shows typical symptoms come from
miss application of PDCA model (refer to gDuplication
of monitoring of processes over internal audits: Jan.2w, 2004h
in 8.2.2 clause of individual clauses relating ISO9001:200 corner
of this web-site).
For example, think of mechanical processes.
The processes are not management processes.
Therefore monitoring and measurement of production control and
mechanical processes is another thing.
The description of the original book is correct.The four kinds
of monitoring and measurement are parallel. |
13 |
p.124 |
Clause 8.3 describes what you need to do when
nonconformity occurs. |
38 |
Nonconformity should be nonconformity product.
Clause 8.3 should have been classified in clause 7. (Product
realization). By some mistake it happened.
We add some explanations to correspond to such defective ISO9001:2000. |
If clause 8.3 should be classified in clause 7. (Product
realization), then clause 8.2.3 and 8.2.4 also should be included
in clause 7, because nonconformity products are detected by
monitoring and measurement of processes and product.
I cannot imagine such a big structural error happened by mistake.
It is very strange the translators who are also Japanese members
of TC176 are writing their unsatisfactory feeling to ISO9001:2000
after its issue.
Did they sleep during TC176 meetings?
Anyway ISO9001:2000 has a structural deficiency (refer to
gDuplication of monitoring
of processes over internal audits: Jan.2w, 2004h in individual
clauses relating ISO9001:2000 corner on this web-site).
|
14 |
p.178 |
For minor nonconformities, a qualified certification/registration
might be issued, pending rectification by the next surveillance
audit. |
46 |
JAB does not allow that way. |
Actually JAB has allowed that way. |